Today’s guest is Katie Maslechko, Director of Development at Beedie. In this episode, Katie tells us all how she became a developer and all about her firm’s developments from initial acquisition and deal structure, design, development approvals, financing, construction and turnover. We talk about her project experience and how it spans a variety of asset classes and includes Vancouver's first purpose-built Biotech Laboratory building and GMP Facility, several complex Affordable Housing partnerships, retail and grocery stores for national brands, and several mixed-use and residential high-rise developments across the Vancouver region.
Welcome back to the She’s Wild Podcast hosted by Nancy Surak! Today’s guest is Katie Maslechko, Director of Development at Beedie. In her role, Katie focuses on guiding several of the firm’s developments from initial acquisition and deal structure, through design, development approvals, financing, construction and turnover. Her project experience spans a variety of asset classes and includes Vancouver's first purpose-built Biotech Laboratory building and GMP Facility, several complex Affordable Housing partnerships, retail and grocery stores for national brands, and several mixed-use and residential high-rise developments across the Vancouver region. Katie currently serves as the Co-Chair of the Urban Land Institute’s (ULI) America’s Young Leaders Group, working to cultivate and empower the future of our industry and representing 10,000 ULI Young Leaders in 54 cities across the US, Canada and Mexico. She is a member of the ULI Public-Private Partnerships Gold (PPPC-Gold) Product Council where she currently serves as Assistant Chair, and is appointed to embrace the role of Product Council Chair for the 2023-2026 term. She also serves as Board Member for Catalyst Community Development Society, a not-for-profit affordable housing developer. Katie holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Policy, Planning & Real Estate Development from the University of Southern California.
Memorable Moments:
3:26- I really take personally, the new tagline that ULI just came out with, which is where the future is built. Because I think that's what YLG really, really can be in the most beautiful way. It's really about creating more accessible and equitable access to leadership opportunities.
10:26- I think the one piece that definitely connects to development for me anyways is that I was an insanely inquisitive child who needed to know the answer to everything or ask questions that probably, you know, not every adult was equipped with the answer to answer me on but I was persistent regardless.
12:50- I think I've always gravitated towards the complicated, hairy, messy deals that often take a lot to unpack, but are so worth it in the end, and have really kind of built a niche for myself on those ones, being the challenging ones, or the highly political ones.
15:26- Instead of being able to produce our own vaccines, we were literally waiting on other countries to send us theirs. And while I hope we don't have to go through COVID, ever again, that manufacturing capacity for a whole variety of different things is going to be really, really significant for the economy out here as well.
17:12- I really, really love the approval side. It's such an integration of kind of strategic thought, often political, angling, and kind of figuring out how to make your compelling case, despite the political headwinds that may exist.
25:15- I can't even tell you how many times that someone I volunteered with at 23, or 24, has since become the person on the other side of the negotiating table, or quite literally, the city planner responsible for approving my project.
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Katie’s Podcast Recommendation:
Rare Breed
https://www.audible.com/pd/Rare-Breed-Audiobook/0062933078
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Nancy Surak 00:00
Welcome to She's Wild the podcast for women in land and development. I'm your host, Nancy Surak. I created this podcast as a way to collect conversations of women in the land and development industry. I've been a land broker on the west coast of Florida for nearly 20 years. And I love to empower other women and to tell them about this amazing industry. But I find often that there just aren't enough women being featured on big stages, whether that's at local conferences, or nationally. So I set out to find these women myself that are killing it in my business across North America that are changing the communities that they live in every single day, whether they're building condos, multifamily, single family, office, or industrial projects. I hope that you will find this space to be inspirational, motivating, and educational. From time to time, I will feature women who are not only in my business, but also career coaches, and motivational speakers. I welcome to she's while the podcast for women in land and development. Today's guest is Katie Maslechko from Beedie Development up in Canada. Katie, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to see such a young woman be so amazingly successful in her career. Can't wait to get into our conversation. I always start the first question off with why don't you tell me a little bit more about yourself and what you're doing in your current role?
Katie Maslechko 01:35
Sure. So excited to be here and chatting with you, Nancy. So my name is Katie Maslechko, and I am the director of development for Beedie Development Group. We're a family owned Developer up in Vancouver, Canada. Traditionally, we're in industrial development. We're the largest industrial landowner developer in Western Canada. But I worked for what started as our multifamily team about 10 years ago, and I built built my career up in in multifamily. But over recent years have also started to carry out a bit of our expansion into some other product types, including retail, and most recently, kind of biotech, which is a new and kind of emerging product type in Vancouver in particular, but also many other places, as well as a lot of our affordable housing work. So jokingly referred to sometimes as the Special Projects team. It's not official, but it feels that way, a lot of the time. But it's very, very fun and interesting and a great team up here. I'm also the co chair for the ULI Young Leaders Group at the Americas level. So we're only heading into our second year of kind of existing at this national level, I know those who might be familiar with ULI probably are familiar with the Young Leaders Group at their district council. But this is really the first time that the young leaders within UlI who kind of comprise over a quarter of its membership, have had this collective voice at the Americas level. And we're able to kind of build this connectivity for this kind of amazing driven group of folks that really are the groundswell of ULI. And kind of in that role, I really take personally, the new tagline that you will I just came out with, which is where the future is built. Because I think that's what it really, really can be in the most beautiful way. It's really about creating more accessible and equitable access to leadership opportunities to dialogue to networks and different things like that. Because whether they're getting involved to the extreme in the way that I do at kind of the involvement level, or just participating locally, you know, we can't even begin to know that kind of the long term impact that, that that exposure that thought leadership will have on on the careers of these young folks. I'm also the incoming chair and current assistant chair for utilize public private partnerships, gold flight, product counsel, which is product counsel is not traditionally known to be utilized, most diverse group, but I'm fortunate to be a part of a pretty amazing one. I will be its first female chair, and as far as I know, the youngest product Council Chair in Uli, when I take on that role, following next spring meeting, so looking forward to that, but also, the imposter syndrome is very much alive and well.
Nancy Surak 04:44
Well, let me let me just say, you don't really have anything to worry about when it comes to the imposter syndrome like you're killing it. And I'm super excited to have your example. Not only on the podcast, but just in the industry as a whole. It's so important. For younger women, or even women who are not necessarily young to see that sort of just infectious enthusiasm for, you know, a professional path and being able to speak out for things that you a know and feel really passionate about. So I'm super, super excited about your future. And I know it's going to be super bright, I can already tell. But I want to take a little bit of a setback, I always like to go backwards a little bit in some of our interviews, I did some digging on your background. And I saw that you actually have a, unlike the majority of my guest, you actually have a bachelor's degree in policy planning and development. So you went to college, at the University of Southern California to study development or planning and development. What made you pick that as a major?
Katie Maslechko 05:52
Well, interestingly enough, I did not go there thinking I wanted to be in development. I grew up in the an oil town, so to speak. And so it was kind of you could be a doctor or an engineer or a business person in oil and gas. And that was kind of the only options I really was kind of contextually familiar with. And, you know, fortunately, quickly figured out that the pre med track that I went off to beyond was just not, you know, not what I was passionate about. But fortunately, by pure fluke and hack, happenstance, had a friend of mine recommended to me a planning class to take as kind of an elective, and I took it and I was absolutely hooked, like the ability to to impact and shape cities in that way. And to think that that was like a career was really, really amazing. And so but then that summer, I went to go look for an internship in planning. And as a Canadian on a visa looking for public sector planning internship was relatively unsuccessful in doing so. But it couldn't have worked out any better because I ended up being able to get an internship in real estate instead, and kind of had this epiphany for lack of a better way to put that of realizing, okay, this is everything I love about planning, except instead of being the one, making the rules, and putting up the red, red tape and writing the rule book, you actually get to be the one, breaking the rules, pushing the edges of the red tape and kind of innovating within it. And honestly, for me, that just seemed even, you know, more my style and a lot more fun. And so after that kind of explore development even further, and really was fortunate to land in it right out of school, too.
Nancy Surak 07:48
Yeah, I would say, you know, out of all the women I've had on the show, you're in a very, very small percentage of folks who actually studied it in college, I think maybe three or four people out of everyone, so less than 10%. Or about 10%.
Katie Maslechko 08:02
Yeah
Nancy Surak 08:03
Most folks have kind of found it through some other career path, and they've ended up here. And it's interesting to hear that, you know, you went to school for something else originally, and then said, oh, like, what is the shiny object over here? This is amazing. When you think about like, your much younger childhood, I'm talking like maybe 12 years old, right? So younger, younger women. Were you attracted to the development space? Do you have any memories of being like, you know, I always kind of like, looked out of the window and watch things get built? Do you have any memories like that?
Katie Maslechko 08:39
Um, perhaps I think, but, you know, in some way, it is. Not necessarily because of the the environment I was surrounded with. I think it was, you know, growing up in a traditionally sprawling city, that aside from a central business district didn't really go vertical. Not that good development always needs to go vertical. But it just wasn't driven by real estate in that way. But I think that every moment that I had the opportunity to kind of be outside of that, or kind of experience new cities. It's like the human dynamic of it that I probably resonate with the most that there could be these like special cool urban spaces in particular, that's probably what stands out in my mind as as a young kid, because it was perhaps different from what I grew up around or spending a lot of time in a car on the road or what have you. So that's the only Inkling I can kind of recollect at that time
Nancy Surak 09:44
No, no problem. I mean, I always ask and a lot of times people will say, you know, I do have those memories, like I have those memories. You know, I tell the story a lot. I've been interviewed by different media outfits, and I have this Barbie Doll Story. And I'm like, yeah, man, like I wish I had luck. will curl in the backyard with Tonka truck and the Barbie Girl of the Barbie. I was like I was the one like building stuff like I was the superintendent like telling the boys I was playing with in the dirt like, yeah, go move those like sticks and stones. We're gonna build like, and I wasn't I wasn't around it growing up. Yeah, fascinated by just the industry as a whole. And I suppose things on the very, very front end but love it, you know?
Katie Maslechko 10:24
Yeah, I mean from that perspective, I think the the one piece that definitely connects to development for me anyways is that I was an insanely inquisitive child needed to know the answer to everything or ask questions that probably, you know, not every adult was equipped with the answer to answer me on but I was persistent regardless. And I think when it comes to development, so much of it is piecing all those pieces together and like you're not an expert in any one thing. You are a generalist, and you have an amazing team of experts, but it's that, that inquisitiveness, that is a skill in development, I think and, frankly, real estate in general, to kind of get get to the pieces that you're missing, and weave them all together in a way that then you can, you know, make the right decision or commitment or whatever else may be.
Nancy Surak 11:17
Yeah, I would agree with that. 100%. So, so I also noticed that you started off for a while you're with your current role, or current company Beedie and the new left, and then you came back. So and you alluded to this a little bit in your introduction, that you you guys have done some things more recently that have been a little outside of maybe the stuff that you did when you were earlier in your career. Tell me about the evolution of your career and development and how you guys are you in particular pick a new project to get involved with and take through the process?
Katie Maslechko 11:52
Sure, I mean, for some of these more recent expansions, I think it really has been built on the foundation of, you know, existing relationships and unique partnerships that that pop up. And we've been fortunate to that I think a lot of them right off the bat have also been really values driven and kind of values aligned, that it is, you know, companies or there's a retail project, I worked on that there was just a natural fit there. And while we could have gone and built, you know, in one case, we could have built a residential tower on the site, we decided to build something else. Or in the case of the biotech work, you know, we we had never done it before, but neither had pretty much anybody else up here. And so I you know, I'm fortunate to have a team and bosses who kind of said, well, then why not us? Like, let's figure it out. And I think I've always gravitated towards the complicated, hairy, messy deals that often take a lot to unpack, but are so worth it in the end, and have really kind of built a niche for myself on those ones, being the challenging ones, or the highly political ones. And so have been fortunate that that has kind of evolved and exposed me to new product types along the way, which has been really, really interesting.
Nancy Surak 13:18
Yeah, so tell me a little bit more about this biotech project. But I know a little bit, but I want you to share it here. So tell me the size, you know, and where you guys are in the whole process. I don't quite know if you guys are finished with it or not. So once you just give us a little bit of a background.
Katie Maslechko 13:35
Sure. So for Vancouver, I mean, we have an amazing set of kind of universities up here that do an incredible job of not just, you know, producing exceptional talent, but really some innovative startups that come out of them. And traditionally, the startups have kind of existed and started up within our ecosystem here. But once they reach a certain size, there's just no space for them here. And so they tend to move to the states to Seattle or California or Boston, to the detriment of kind of our own brain drain and local diversification of our economy. And so this project is really special in that way because this company really decided to commit to staying here. And when you are familiar with Vancouver's approval timelines, that's a pretty big commitment to be making because they're not quick. We were fortunate to work with the city and with our partners, the biotech firm to get through our rezoning all the way through to building permit in just shy of 18 months, which is kind of unheard of up here and wasn't without effort on every single side and an amazing kind of design team as well. But it was what was necessary to get them into that building in time. to expand at the pace that they're currently growing, we're also working with them on what will be a new manufacturing facility for biotech as well. And that's significant for Canada having just gone through COVID. Because it will be only the second one out here, and like in Canada at all, and none existed when we went through COVID. And so instead of being able to produce our own vaccines, we were literally waiting on other countries to send us theirs. And while I hope we don't have to go through COVID, ever again, that manufacturing capacity for a whole variety of different things is going to be really, really significant for for the economy out here as well.
Nancy Surak 15:48
Yeah. And for your citizens, which is I mean, that's that's a great point, I wasn't aware that you get I mean, I had heard the stories about waiting for the vaccines, but I wasn't aware that you guys didn't have that manufacturing. So that's really cool that you guys, you in particular are part of changing not only the build space of where you live, but in the economic space, but just how people live a healthier lifestyle long term. Yeah, that's really Absolutely.
Katie Maslechko 16:17
Absolutely. And I think we're already seeing it start to shift. You know, there's, there's companies now deciding to stay in or expand here or looking to build facilities here, which is, I think, what we all would have hoped. So it's nice to start to see that even though we only just broke ground last week, that it's already having a trickle down effect and kind of the efforts of our partners as well.
Nancy Surak 16:41
That's amazing. So I can hear that that's a really fun and very new project. Given your experience, what's your favorite part of your of the deal lifecycle? Like where do you like, say, like, that's my jam. I love that part.
Katie Maslechko 16:59
I mean, I get to oversee a lot of it, because we are kind of a soup to nuts, developers, so from the acquisition all the way through to, you know, the turnover. But I think I really, really love the approval side. It's such an integration of kind of strategic thought, often political, angling, and and kind of figuring out how to make make your compelling case, despite the political headwinds that may exist. But it's also just very people driven, whether that's the relationship with planners or a complex team of competing priorities. And while those driving us crazy, just as much of the time, it's really the part of it that I love, because you're not only shaping up the building in that time, but really kind of bringing people together in a really meaningful way for a meaningful outcome.
Nancy Surak 17:57
Now, that's awesome. Everybody has a different part that they love the most. So I always like to ask that question. So given the fact that you've been doing this, I think you said like 10 or 11 years, right.
Katie Maslechko 18:08
10 years almost. Yeah.
Nancy Surak 18:09
Tell me about something that you've had to a more challenging part of your career. Tell me about something you've had to overcome?
Katie Maslechko 18:17
Yeah, well, I mean, you hinted at it earlier a little bit with my, what we call my Hegedus. And my venture out to New York City to work there, before coming back to BD. And I, even though that didn't go exactly the way I expected it in so many ways. The company was was a little bit different than I expected. I also moved down there about four months before the 2016 election. So that also changed the landscape a little bit. But I could not be more grateful for not only the decision to go, and the year that I spent there. But in particular, the decision to come back because I think for me, it was you know, I had a lot of people telling me, you made it to New York, what why are you even considering leaving, but I just knew that, you know, my path was in Vancouver, that's where I wanted to be. That is where I wanted to build my career. And that that was where I was going to be happiest. And despite many, many competing opinions to the contrary, it was really about kind of like being true to myself. And in my mid 20s. I can't say that I was particularly good at doing that up until that point. And it was a pretty powerful way to do that for perhaps the first time and it was really, really huge and kind of just my personal growth, the whole lifecycle of that transition there and back and forth. I'm really glad I did it.
Nancy Surak 20:02
That's a cool part of the story. You know, that's a cool part of you saying, like, I was able to step into making a decision that worked for me for garlis of what my influencers were telling me at the time. You know, because I moved away from where I grew up, I never returned, other than for like visits. And it was really hard to move away. And for me, it was really hard to stay away. Because I even now and I've been gone for a really long time, I'm gonna date myself, like 30 years, right? 30 years and a month, I think. I still when I go back, we'll have people say, Do you think you'll move back? And I'm like, my whole life is in Florida. Like, though Yeah. It's fun to visit. But I'm like, No, but it it does take a lot, I think, to leave, and to go back or to leave and to stay away from where you grew up to ensure this is what I want and what is meaningful to me. So that's shared.
Katie Maslechko 21:07
Yeah. And those places will always be there, too, is the way I look at it.
Nancy Surak 21:11
Yeah, right, for sure. For sure. What is the strangest thing you've encountered on a deal today?
Katie Maslechko 21:17
Hmmm. You know, so I have a really interesting project that I've been fortunate to, to work on. That is a bit of a public private philanthropic partnership. And we have worked closely with actually the wife of the head of my company, who really wanted to create a really special project that was affordable housing and affordable childcare for single women and their children. Because what is the point of building the affordable housing if we're not providing one of the other essential key pieces to really help them either get back to school or get back to work, also at an affordable rate, and so she, you know, kind of had philanthropic funds, she was willing to put behind it, our provincial Housing Authority was was partnering with us, we had an amazing operator, the YWCA of Metro Vancouver, and we had this full package we felt like, and the strangest thing was the sheer amount of time that we had to spend walking around to municipalities trying to convince them to partner with us on this. And maybe it's not that strange, maybe it should have been exactly what we were expecting. But we also felt like, we had the whole package here, and we have a huge affordability crisis, our daycare system is pretty broken. And well, one project is just a drop in the bucket, it was still, it's still a drop in the bucket. And it really, really shocked us how difficult it proved to be to find a municipal partner that would kind of bend in the land at an affordable rate, and partner with us on the project. So we've been fortunate that we do have that municipal partner now. And I've been working with them on the approvals and all of those sorts of things over the past couple of years now. And things continue to move forward. But that was not a challenge. we bargain for, being that hard. It was well over a year of kind of shopping around to different cities and partners.
Nancy Surak 23:36
Yeah, crazy, right to say like, there's such a need. It was such. Yeah, and then it just such silence on the other side. So frustrating. I mean, I see that down in Florida, too, all the time. You know, for we have an affordability crisis occurring as well on the west coast of Florida in certain municipalities. And, you know, and I'll have a piece of dirt and I'm like, Okay, this is perfect for this need it but we won't have the land use or the zoning and nobody even wants to have the conversation. And I'm like, you guys, like we have a solution, right here,
Katie Maslechko 24:11
right here.
Nancy Surak 24:12
And they're like, No, I'm like, Okay, what are we doing? Why? Why so frustrating? So totally, totally understand. Okay, so I'm sure you get this question, generally speaking, because you're so successful and because of your role as the leader or Co leader or Co chair of the Young Leaders Group. If a young woman or young man were to reach out to you and say, Katie, oh my gosh, I heard your podcast or I read an article about you. I want to do what you're doing. I want to get into development. I just needed some advice to kind of get me started. What would you share with that person?
Katie Maslechko 24:49
I would encourage them to just get out there and get engaged to really It's about building a network that is yours. It's not your bosses, it's, it's about you and the connections we're making. And volunteer with organizations like Uli not to make that sound like a plug. But I can't even tell you how many times that someone I volunteered with at 23, or 24, has since become the person on the other side of the negotiating table, or quite literally, the city planner responsible for approving my project. Or fortunately, some of my closest friends, and well, that's, you know, I was just eager to give of my time, and still am, those connections have just been amazing. And I think anyone no matter how, what their career trajectory looks like, or how involved they want to get, can get value out of that, by by getting actively engaged. And if you're willing to take on those leadership roles, especially the young women out there, we need, we need more of us. In every, every role as we kind of evolve our careers.
Nancy Surak 26:07
Yes, we're speaking from the same choir. I'm huge about just like, stepping the position, step up to the stage, you know, just if you see something that you're interested in, like raising your hand and continue to raise your hand and knock on as many doors to say, like, hey, I want to get involved with that, as it takes, you know, so I love that you were mirroring that same advice, as I feel the same way. Okay. I always love to ask, too. And I'm going to throw in a new question. And this time as well, I love to ask, is there a book or a podcast that you listen to regularly that you or you've listened to recently that you found particularly inspirational in either your business or professional or personal life.
Katie Maslechko 26:51
I mean, I love podcasts. And I could list off probably a dozen, including this one that I really love. But I was also feeling as though the list of books that I wanted to be reading was piling up too high. So I've tried to start getting into audiobooks lately, and recently listened to one called Rare Breed. And while I wouldn't say it's like a universal guide book of like, career success, or anything, I think what they do really, really well is remind us how to kind of why it matters to speak up and kind of share your voice challenge convention a little bit. Or that like, if you are thinking differently, that's not necessarily a bad thing, that there's too much of the same way of thinking out there. And empowering kind of that voice in the back of our head that says, But why or can't it be this way? If we were to do this, that whatever and, and really pushing, pushing the boundaries a little bit, in order to kind of change change the world? Less dramatic way of putting that.
Nancy Surak 28:06
Now that's great. I don't, I haven't read that book or listen to it. i And the reason I asked that question is that I listen to audiobooks quite frequently, like every day, like a half an hour to 45 minutes every day. And so I burned through them at a pretty fast clip. And so I'm always looking for different books to put on my rotation. Because, you know, I have this little bit of, if a book doesn't hook me by like a third chapter, I'm probably not going to finish it. Yeah, yeah. I'm always like, hey, what's your favorite like book so that I could like put it on my list for my own? Good will, acknowledge those, yeah.
Katie Maslechko 28:40
So that's how I felt with this one. Someone had recommended it to me. And I was like, not even through the little introduction. And I was just hooked, probably listened to it in a day and a half.
Nancy Surak 28:51
Oh, my gosh, that's awesome. Cool. I can't wait to check it out. Okay, so I alluded to a new bit, a little bit of a new question that I've been doing, and I have a selfish reason on this one too. But I'm working on updating my Hype playlist. So I've been asking women who are aghast Hey, what's your favorite? Your number one hype song when you're closing a deal or you're going in for a presentation or you're going to a grand opening? Like what do you have on your radio? What are you listening to?
Katie Maslechko 29:20
The honest answer is probably a good chunk of the time it like some Broadway power anthem.
Nancy Surak 29:30
Really, interesting.
Katie Maslechko 29:32
Yeah. Yeah. Probably Probably a few on there. I think the other one though, is also Am I ready? Which I believe is Lizzo. And even though Am I Ready might be a question nothing about that song is questioning whether you're ready or not. Very, very much a high anthem.
Nancy Surak 29:55
For me love it. Okay, so wait, so back to Broadway, which I'm not I really in the Broadway set that my daughter performed all through high school, not on Broadway, although that would have been her dream. But it shows all through high school. And so I knew a little bit about Broadway songs because I think I listened to them for hours and hours of Yes. Taking her to like different rehearsals. You gotta have one, like, give me one. Like, what's what's one that comes to mind? Or even the show? And then maybe, see, see what we come up with?
Katie Maslechko 30:27
Okay. I mean, I feel like there's some solid ones In The Heights actually is a great one. Dear Evan Hanson or maybe Wicked? Yeah, I probably
Nancy Surak 30:42
I was waiting for you to say wicked because there's some like serious like female empowerment like i is going to slay this. Whatever situation is in front of you
Katie Maslechko 30:50
Exactly.
Nancy Surak 30:52
Here today listening and they're like, Broadway what? Like, go check out the Wicked playlist. That would be what I
Katie Maslechko 30:59
Have to leave the podcast out on that.
Nancy Surak 31:01
That's right. Okay. So finally, I always like to ask if if someone's listening today, and they're here today, and they're like, man? Katie sounds awesome. I want to follow her. Where's a good place for folks to follow you on social media? I think I know, you're pretty active on LinkedIn. Is that a good place? Do you are you active? And do you push your professional and personal life out to folks who are curious in other places?
Katie Maslechko 31:26
Yeah, LinkedIn is probably the best place. In terms of all of that I do have a Twitter, which is my first name and last name. less active on there, although I should be better about it. My Instagram is the same as well. But LinkedIn is the best place to kind of find me and follow me for that stuff. And I think would encourage folks, especially young people, young women, reach out to me there, especially if you're interested in getting involved in Uli or more involved in Uli. I just want to do what I can to kind of create a path for more folks, including some of the amazing young people, I get to work with him that role. And if you're at the fall meeting, come say hi,
Nancy Surak 32:12
Yeah I know, our spring too, because that's up in Spring.
Katie Maslechko 32:16
That's right.
Nancy Surak 32:16
That's in Toronto next year
Katie Maslechko 32:18
That's gonna be in Toronto next year.
Nancy Surak 32:20
Yeah, I'm hoping to get up there that's spoken to the universe. So I gotta figure out how to make that happen. Because I will not be at the fall meeting. But I am hoping to be up in Toronto. And my goal, and my hope is to bring all the women I've interviewed who happen to attend into one room in one space together, so that I can help them all like network with each other. So.
Katie Maslechko 32:42
That would be amazing.
Nancy Surak 32:45
I think so. So with that, Katie, again, it was such a pleasure to get to know you, it is really clear why you're so successful in your career. Beedie is really lucky to have you. And I'm really happy that you're having such success there. And I want to thank you for your time today.
Katie Maslechko 33:00
Thank you so much, Nancy, this has been a lot of fun and great to finally connect with you as well.
Nancy Surak 33:06
All right, cool. Well, I'll see you soon. And we'll keep in touch in the meantime. Okay?
Katie Maslechko 33:12
Sounds good. Hope to see you in Toronto.
Nancy Surak 33:15
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